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AEW Double Or Nothing 2021 discussion thread

AEW Double Or Nothing 2021 discussion thread

ravenousthoughts

**Best Match: Sting & Darby vs. Sky & Page - Worst Match: Mox & Kingston vs. YB** **Matches with interference: 6/9 (didnt watch Stadium Stampede)** Page vs. Cage was meh, they kicked out of so many moves its just whatever at this point. Interference, of course. Moxley & Kingston vs. Young Bucks was worth it just for the sight of Mox feeding one of the Bucks confetti. Mox continues his downward spiral into Deathmatch garbage wrestler. ANOTHER interference by Cutler. I like that the Bucks are heeling it up, there is nothing likeable about them, so gotta give credit where its due. ANOTHER interference by Karl Anderson & Kazarian. Moxley is slowly becoming a budget Ric Flair, he bleeds in pretty much every match now. Those BTE knee strikes look abysmal, Young Bucks are still champions. End me please. Casino Battle Royale... nothing much to say. Big Slow was okay on commentary. Max Casters rhymes were by far the best part of this match. CODY RHODES DOES IT AGAIN. I cannot hate this guy. He is light years ahead of the entire roster. The match was not important. It was the experience of Cody Rhodes blessing my screen. INTERFERENCE by QT Marshall. Miro vs. Archer was okay. INTERFERENCE by Jake Roberts. Shida vs. Britt Baker. Shida continues to be the most boring womens champion in history. INTERFERENCE by Rebel. Liked the finish, Baker is definitely not as bland as Shida. Sting & Darby vs. Scorpio Sky & Ethan Page. I like the small entrance video. STING DID A DIVE IN 2021. WHAT THE FUCK. By far the best match on the card, not even close. Darby may be a questionable guy behind the scenes, but he does some crazy shit in the ring that i can buy from him. I dont know what happened with Sting, the guy moves great considering he is 62 and had a serious neck injury. Omega vs. OC vs. PAC was not as bad as i expected it to be. OC in a main event role makes absolutely no sense. INTERFERENCE by Don Callis. Sad how Omega threw the IMPACT & AAA belts like trash bags around the ring + left them there after the match. I skipped the Stadium Stampede because i value my sanity.


Drama79

In general, I really enjoy the undercard but hate the main event story at the moment. And I have a perverse enjoyment of watching that mad bastard Cody burn through all the AEW good will and continue to put himself over in the midcard.


ravenousthoughts

Cody is going ALL IN and milking Khan for everything he is got, and he does it at such a level that i cannot hate him and i always check out the stuff he is in.


SimonBRUH8217

Was way too tired to comment last night but this was a really fantastic show IMO! Cody is, well, Cody and I wasn’t exactly crazy about the main event and The Pinnacle losing but the rest of the show was super fun. Triple Threat was 100% my MOTN with the tag title match following close behind, I also really dug Britt vs Shida, Miro vs Lance and Cage vs Page. Really hoping we’re finally headed for Page vs Omega at All Out.


BeastPunk1

I haven't watched this but judging by the comments,Corny's gonna have a field day with this one.


Switchblade2000

Lio Rush? Sting pins Scorpio Sky? Cody wins? Mark Henry? I am not convinced. Atleast Miro and Britt Baker are cool.


Shrekt115

Good show. Highlight was definitely Stadium Stampede. So lame Cody won Also holy fuck relax with the interferences


Drama79

Yeah I'm thinking the same. Not earth shattering, but dear God AEW needed to stick the landing of a big show. This was a solid show with some fan gratification and for the most part, got out of it's own way. Which is a blessing. Some really cool moments, some guys (Miro, Guavara) looking more like stars - good progress. Cody can continue to eat a bowl of dicks though.


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BeastPunk1

And Hangman Page too. Get those 2 to WWE asap.


SailorSlamDunk

I'm glad it sounds like it wasn't terrible but honestly it still seems too thin to justify coughing up 50 bones for.


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BadDadBot

Hi sure it was a cool 2, I'm dad.


KaneRobot

Mark bot


AcceptableShower

Fun parts but a very long PPV. Liked the Stadium Stampede and Hangman/Cage. Triple threat was good but long. Sting looked pretty good for 62 but what are we doing with him here after this, i mean really? Lack of reffing really brought down Tag and Women's title matches for me, which were both overbooked and long. Battle Royal was a mess. Tony Schiavone has become unbearable for me on commentary, he has a constant perverse sense of bloodlust but also incredulity towards any perceived slight or heeling. Get that bag Mark Henry


c_u_in_da_ballpit20

WWE has utterly spoiler me with their 2.5-3 hour PPVs. I know AEW only has a few of these a year but it was a real drag sometimes.


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

The refs detract from almost every match. It's not entirely their fault, as people are booked to do shit right in front of them, but they could still do more.


TheCnorton19

Pretty solid. Thought it would be terrible and was pleasantly surprised it was pretty ok.


c_u_in_da_ballpit20

I think it was worth $20. Page/Cage and Omega/Orange/PAC were excellent, Miro/Archer was great (I had Baker/Shida here originally but slipped up, it was a bit sloppy to me), and the rest were just okay. I'll never get used to AEW's PPV pacing, they had to blaze through every thing between matches and they still just barely finished within four hours. They should have at least held on Shida long enough to get her on camera for the "Thank you Shida," chant. Still, there are worse ways to spend four hours. PAC is so, so, SO good in the ring, my goodness, get Omega away from the title and give it to PAC instead.


crvilmxow

Thought it was pretty good. I’m sure SC will claim it was the greatest thing ever as is tradition but I did enjoy it a lot more than the past two PPVs. Curious to see where the stories go from now. I hope there’s no more pinnacle v inner circle, and I think the next team to feud with the bucks should dethrone them or else things will risk getting stale but that’s just my opinion


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Fifty fucking dollars


OctaviusNeon

I know, right? What a bargain!


mfvolt

I'm tagging you as "Private (E-1) for Dub Defense Force"


OctaviusNeon

Sick burn bro


CaptainGo

Idk man I didn't mind what I saw, but between this or almost half a year of the network I know which one I'm picking. Actually it's a swerve because I'd pick half a year of fightpass instead of both Networks kind of killing the PPV model


OctaviusNeon

"Why pay for a great PPV when I can watch all two seasons of Camp WWE for a reasonable monthly price?"


1869er

“The Network isn’t such a great deal if you ignore basically everything on it!”


OctaviusNeon

I already have Peacock.


[deleted]

You’re going after anybody on here criticizing the show. You do not sound super secure in your feelings for AEW


SailorSlamDunk

Quit rewarding him with attention and he'll go away.


[deleted]

Insecure AEW fans are parasites


OctaviusNeon

I guess we'll see what happens, but after tonight I'm more confident than ever in AEW. Also a handful of people = everyone on here. 👌


[deleted]

Positive reinforcement for the AEW fan searching for people with negative things to say about the show. What else is new


CaptainGo

Thank you for this balanced, objective opinion


OctaviusNeon

I mean, you're dogging the company that isn't two years old because doesn't have a streaming service of its own, unlike the juggernaut that has spent 20 years with a monopoly on the industry. Idk. It feels a little unbalanced to me.


CaptainGo

I'm not dogging them for not having a juggernaut like the network. I'm not even dogging them at all really. Well. I'm not dogging them in this comment chain. My comment is that the ppv model is outdated. Even you have to admit that spending $200 to catch four wrestling pay per views a year is too much in this day and age. Personally I'd like to see TNT adopt a system where you can a season pass or something from them.


OctaviusNeon

Give it time.


CaptainGo

I mean Impact have a streaming service and they're on a shoestring budget compared to AEW


OctaviusNeon

Hasn't Impact/TNA had an audience since 2002? I'm sure AEW is going to move to a format like that eventually, considering it's the way everyone else is going. I'm overall not concerned about it at this point.


[deleted]

Not even close


OctaviusNeon

Thank you for this balanced, objective opinion.


[deleted]

You’re welcome. I saw AND paid for the show. It’s peak TNA leftover garbage. I just can’t with ex WWE guys, Kenny Omega being Indy HHH having long matches, and whatnot. There’s my objective opinion


OctaviusNeon

You mention ex-WWE guys but they put over a bunch of people who never set foot in WWE tonight. The world championship triple-threat match ran long, you say? Come off it, man. That match was amazing.


[deleted]

Just because you “win” doesn’t mean you are put over. It’s what you do with the opportunity that makes you. I’ve seen better triple threats other than this movesy crap. Neville is a chore to watch, Cassidy? Gimmick ran its course quicker than you can say Adam Rose, and Omega is just there. The main event was a dime a dozen match I’ve seen a million times in AEW, ROH, TNA and WWE. Nothing special just like the show. It was a circa 2013 TNA PPV. It exists and that’s fine


OctaviusNeon

You sound super secure in that and I respect it.


[deleted]

Why wouldn’t I be secure in it? It’s just not a good or new wrestling promotion that I’ve seen a zillion times cater to a small audience of fans who will eat up anything that’s not WWE. If people like it, that’s fine but I’m more secure in my feelings of it than AEW fans in any criticism of the company.


OctaviusNeon

👍


1005thArmbar

Absolute dog shit and I'm sorry I watched it. I'm glad other people had a good time, I just...didn't. I'm going to go finish drinking and go smoking 7 cigarettes in a park, have a good night folks edit: I love that I have like 5 comments in this fuckin' thread where members of The Dub Defense Squadron showed up to tell me I'm wrong like 4 hours after the fuckin' show ended. Thanks, guys.


OctaviusNeon

Yeah, man. I felt the same way about the latest WM. This ppv fucked, tho. Have a good night.


Switchblade2000

The PPV was average. Nothing more.


OctaviusNeon

Okay.


TwoHeadedBoyTwo

Really good show actually. What Takeover used to be. A few rough spots like the woman’s division still being bad and reliance on old guys but their top matches all delivered in spades


HartfordWhalers123

This was a fun good show! Besides the really boring Cody/Ogogo, I thought all the matches were pretty solid and a lot of fun to watch. I really loved the first two matches (Deeb/Riho and Page/Cage) a lot though and I think it was not only just the wrestling, but that whole crowd just being hot for it. It was great. I hope they can keep up the quality from this and go back to being as good as it was in 2019 and 2020. I never usually buy PPVs, but I brought this (and Revolution) and it was worth it.


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

Not an awful PPV, but outside of Brit, Miro and to a lesser extent Page, I'm not sure this does much to reset the table on what's been AEW's worst era. As long as the Elite and IC are still dominant, things are not going to improve much. Still, on its own, it was a pretty fun show.


Till_Any

Overall it was alright. There was obviously a lot of hype surrounding the "surprise signing". Triple Threat was the shit. MOTN.


Razzler1973

At least it's good to see fans back in full


dragonsky

Fun PPV, I enjoyed this, the fans help a lot. It's great to see people have fun, I enjoyed the tag match and the triple threat. Sting's match was entertaining too, the cinematic match was..cinematic. Some ok things here and there. Overall: I'm glad. Cheers everyone see you next week, have a good one


TheRetroAntonio

The only reason this isn’t surprising is I knew Jericho wanted to hear the crowd sing.


Flamemypickle

The Inner Circle needs to break up. Now. Everyone, including Jericho himself, is stuck in Inner circle hell. This group that has been in pergatory for over a year and they just went over a new group with legit potential. So stupid


MikeyMoo1

They should’ve broke up after Jericho lost the belt. Their run up until then was great, but after that they didn’t need to be together.


Razzler1973

They were formed on episode 1 of Dynamite ...


Flamemypickle

And nobody has benefited from being in the group. Every member of the IC has been at a stall.


Razzler1973

Cause it's all about Jericho And, spinning MJF out of it, which is fine but could have given his new group even more momentum here but Jericho needed his win


optimisticgatorfan

Le middle finger= cool and badass


1005thArmbar

no surprise at the end? just an Inner Circle jackoff festival?


aewallinorallout

Inner circle jerk


Razzler1973

Pyro ... someone check on Kingston


CosmicRorschach

So the match is Stadium Stampede between Inner Circle and Pinnacle, but it ends with Sammy and Spears wrestling a singles match.


morthalsfavouriteson

First stadium match was better


dragonsky

Sammy should become a superstar AEW's booking is not good but with MJF, Hangman and Sammy they have a future


Razzler1973

This singalong is why this match is closing Jericho never had as many people sing his stuff


Till_Any

Yep, makes sense now.


CaptainGo

Fully expecting ones of these pay per views to have a Fozzy concert


ishmael_king93

So for the last 10 minutes Sammy and Spears just...had a match.


Razzler1973

The least high profile guys in each group is the finish ... that's a choice Did FTR do much??


Flamemypickle

You can't be fucking serrious. What a dogshit ending.


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

Son of a bitch. I spent four hours and the IC isn't getting broken up? Fuck.


typac69

Took a chair shot to the head 2 minutes ago and now is back walking around like nothing happened. Makes sense lmao


TheRetroAntonio

What happened to everyone else?!


optimisticgatorfan

I was wondering why Spears got so much screen time and then I saw that he ate the pin lolll


1005thArmbar

what the fuck


HeckMonkey

Lol 2 chairshots and he gets up and does his full on taunting before a triple flip lol


mkultratypebeat

goddamn that shit went on forever


1005thArmbar

#CREATIVE FREEDOM USE OF THE WORD BITCH


Razzler1973

Everyone going to pair off and get 4-5 minutes in the ring after getting it in pre tapes before?


CaptainGo

I'm expecting someone to come out for the live bit and forget they bladed in the pretape


1005thArmbar

yeah, i don't give a fuck about 10 guy, just go back to Jericho and MJF because that's obviously the finish


1005thArmbar

lmao well i guess not


CaptainGo

Genuinely forgot the revival were part of this story


Till_Any

Must say, it's cool to see Shawn Spears main event a PPV.


Flamemypickle

He's looking legit too.


Flamemypickle

No. You cannot take a fucking chair shot to the head and kick out right away. Fuck off


1005thArmbar

#CREATIVE FREEDOM FINGER!!


Razzler1973

As if Spears would get the win 😀


Flamemypickle

Can we stop kicking out of chair shots. Please?


MirandaTS

Okay, now just fucking end it.


Razzler1973

Sammy/Spears was the finish? 😁


GGAllinSmithee

“End! EEEEEND!!” - Tom Servo


ishmael_king93

Someone tell ref Aubrey she’s literally just here to count to 3, stop acting 😂


Flamemypickle

Huhh. I didn't realize that the Dailys palace is in the same building as the Jacksonville jaguars building


CaptainGo

Ryback really did a cocktease on social media and pretended he was going to be on AEW lmao


Till_Any

AEW need to chill with the blood. It's not special when every other match someone has some colour.


1005thArmbar

I'm expecting a commentator to blade at the next paper view


BadDadBot

Hi expecting a commentator to blade at the next paper view, I'm dad.


1005thArmbar

Ref Aubrey really is the main character of AEW


rsd79

straight up! she loves the camera and is the finger wagging olivier of refs


stevestogers

Shawn spears runs like woody from toy story


MirandaTS

Jericho and MJF showing back up at Daily's Place is like the Spongebob episode where they're real and on land


stevestogers

Dude that shit was terrifying to me as a kid


1005thArmbar

outlaw mudshow bullshit


Realistic_Literature

If I were at at the venue, I would have gone home by now. Everything Jericho does becomes comedy. This was a serious issue and now is just goofball antics. And this "match" has zero build or flow; it's just things happening and there's no sense of momentum or anything. It's also really boring as a result.


stevestogers

Should’ve ended on the triple threat match that was legit the most entertaining match I’ve seen from this promotion


Flamemypickle

Ok. Can we not have CZW crap on here please?


Razzler1973

This feels like they are doing the pandemic era 'creative' matches/spots where you could take advantage of no crowd and pre-taping It's just 6 months late and there IS an actual crowd


stevestogers

I wish I could have a “match” with Aubrey in an empty office at night helllll yeah


Razzler1973

Gonna hit her with your finisher, brother


stevestogers

Oh yes but there will be many many false finishes in keeping with her employers customs


Gregroberts807

Thats it time to go to horny jail


stevestogers

It was fun while it lasted guys!


ishmael_king93

So I’m sure it goes without saying but these matches were absolutely in the wrong order. Do your shitty cinematic match when theres still limited audience so you disappoint less live fans, then, i dont know, maybe save the big Blood and Guts match for the *first PPV with a full audience in an entire year just 3 weeks later?*


Razzler1973

The Blood & Guts wasn't on the day by accident No real sports and The Challenge had finished. They aimed for that day to be 'number 1 in the demo' with a bump from a 'special show' It worked It's more important to be able to say #1 cable show on Wednesday than worry about the feud making sense


BeastPunk1

Why couldn't they have switched the format then? Stadium Stampede on TV,Blood and Guts on PPV?


Razzler1973

I agree but I honestly don't think they thought of it and/or really really wanted to do Blood & Guts cause they planned it before and never got to do it yet Maybe they thought Blood & Guts would make a better TV spectacle than Stadium thingy, probably correct but it doesn't mean it all makes sense


BeastPunk1

Didn't they say they didn't want to do Blood and Guts when Covid hit because of no crowd? Then when they get a crowd they do the cinematic shit. This company is just full of geniuses.


Razzler1973

It's a very bizaare choice, that's for sure


CaptainGo

This probably should have been the bathroom break since it's on the TV's anyway


typac69

Somehow this probably won’t be the most embarrassing thing to happen in that stadium this year


Flamemypickle

Is this match dumb? Yes. Is it fun? Yes.


CrimsonKingCirkus

It was fun for like the first 10 mins, this is way too much now imo.


Till_Any

This match is a bit dry imo. For a main event at least. Knowing how great the Triple Threat match was, it would've been a cool way to close the show.


CrimsonKingCirkus

How the fuck is this match still going 😂


zacbcool

These man wont be the same, There will be a little bit of bruising.......


stevestogers

Fighting in a seedy nightclub in a dump in Florida....ah the days of my sweet youth


ishmael_king93

Wait a minute so Perfect 10 guy could’ve just pinned Sammy and *no one* would’ve known the match is over...?


morthalsfavouriteson

yeah I don't get why it wouldn't be an elimination match, that would make some kind of sense at least


GGAllinSmithee

How fucking long is this show going to be?


CosmicRorschach

Well at least were getting an LAX reunion of sorts


stevestogers

Urban Meyer knows how to get on the good side of rednecks this was a strategic move


morthalsfavouriteson

*blurry zoom in for half a second in dim lighting* It's Konnan!


Razzler1973

Why wouldn't a 90s wrestler be DJ'ing?!


ishmael_king93

This is terrible 😂


Razzler1973

Why are they hanging out in a bar? 😁 Isn't it a fight with the existence of Inner Circle on the line?


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

Man, Tully is dressed like he's about to fuck all the Grandmas tonight.


optimisticgatorfan

Who the fuck would volunteer for a bottle shot to the head


typac69

If perfect 10 pins Sammy here is the match just over? How would Jericho, MJF and others know when to stop fighting? What are they all doing right now?


Crazyfrog181

This is so cringe


CosmicRorschach

Crap, remember what happened the last time Sammy near scissor lift


SaintAnarchist

Matt Hardy doesn't. Seriously. He doesn't remember that night at all


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

If you look at the back of the warehouse, you can see the silhouette of someone who hung themself rather than finish watching Spears and Sammy "wrestle". Ohhh spooky!


Razzler1973

I'm not really a fan of 'two guys get to do a little match' What's everyone else doing? It's like a little collection of matches I assume they'll all come together for the finish


typac69

Imagine saying 5 years ago that the perfect 10 guy would be in the main event of a PPV lol


cc12321

"He's the next big star! 5 years from now, he and The Revival will be main eventing a PPV against Jericho and Jack Swagger!"


zacbcool

Did this dude just watch clockwork orange? jeeez


CaptainGo

Remember when you're like 14 and you watch your first Kubrick movie and you think you're all deep and shit


stevestogers

Remember when you just watched eyes wide shut for the titties but could then justify it by acting like a kinophile


[deleted]

Tarrentino be like "yes, this scene absolutely needs an extended foot shot to nail the tone"


stevestogers

He’s shameless but I don’t mind. Although the 16 year old Juliet lewis feet shots in dawn of the dead made me uncomfortable Edit: whatever the fuck that vampire movie was callled with keitel and Clooney idk


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

You can tell this is pre-taped because it has instant replays.


Razzler1973

I'm guessing finish out on the field in the ring will be the live part for the crowd to see the finish


ishmael_king93

They’re realllyyyy trying hard to make this look like it’s not prerecorded when it so obviously is, when they honestly should’ve just leaned into it.


Flamemypickle

There is too much silence from the commentators. You can tell they are way out of thier element with these type of matches


Flamemypickle

If this is pretaped, the commentators need to watch this before hand and take notes. The silence is breaking the flow of this match


dragonsky

This is not wrestling Once you get that out of the way It's enjoyable for what it is. I like it. Idk what it is tho


Razzler1973

It's a super super extended backstage segment Whether you think backstage segments look good or not is another matter


crvilmxow

Lmaooo I’m admittedly not a fan of Sammy or spears but what is this corelgraphed chair dance wankery


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

Wouldn't it be great if Hager just disappeared right there. Never to be seen again.


MirandaTS

*MJF as Lionel Hutz* What? My promo said 'no more comedy'? Ah, they messed this whole thing up. It's supposed to say: No, more comedy!


jwt6577

This show has set back wrestling so much and that was before Tony forced the head coach of an NFL Team to appear on this mud show.


Razzler1973

Well, that MITB the Fed did had guys in Vince's office so they had to do this!


jwt6577

I never ever want to hear anyone AEW Dubbalos bitch about WWE comedy again. Not ever. You have lost that right.


Razzler1973

They lost that a loooooong time ago DAE it's like a buffet


jwt6577

It's official now. That was the last straw, this show has been insulting.


[deleted]

Lol AEW pulling out all the WWE castaways. Typical TNA moves


CrimsonKingCirkus

This is the only match I've enjoyed so far.


dragonsky

PETA on the phone rn


DresserBoys

FXXX TK for taking shot at Alexa's pet


crvilmxow

Would like to see wardlow get a prominent role soon. I rate him over most of the roster and he’s been background muscle for too long imo


Razzler1973

Has he even had 5 matches there? I think we need to see a lot a lot more of him before he gets a prominent spot tbh


Flamemypickle

I think they are building to that. Remember, deisel was HBK's muscle for a couple years before he broke out


ishmael_king93

The weird AEW stans on Twitter are already in full defense mode about Mark Henry, saying he’s absolutely not wrestling, conveniently forgetting this is the exact same conversation that followed Sting’s debut.


Razzler1973

Henry will have some match or other, so will Big Show


SaintAnarchist

I can't wait for Henry vs Show in AEW


Razzler1973

In keeping with Bucks working with singles guys for big matches I'm expecting Bucks vs Show/Henry on an upcoming 'special show'


BadDadBot

Hi expecting bucks vs show/henry on an upcoming 'special show', I'm dad.


Razzler1973

Papa Buck?


SaintAnarchist

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deep1986

/u/drama79 can we ban this bot please? It's really shit and annoying


Drama79

Yup


CaptainGo

I stopped watching a bit ago. I missed big mizark?


jwt6577

He's going to be the announcer for their Friday night show.


ishmael_king93

Yeah he’s gonna be an “analyst/trainer” for their new show, or something like that. But the dude literally said a few weeks ago that he’s been slimming down for an in ring return


Lamont_U_Bigdummy

I guess we should just be glad that Tebow isn't there. Although where are the other 8 guys?


crvilmxow

Lmao can’t lie I popped for urban and strong never thought I’d see urban show up... any chance Tebow makes a cameo?


CaptainGo

That poor dude is wondering what the fuck he's got himself into. Moonlighting on his bosses sons wrestling show


[deleted]

Again, no idea why any of this is happening. Last time I watched MJF and Jericho were pals, why do they hate each other? Why is Jericho's arm in a cast? Why did they rappel to the ring? Like I get they shouldn't have to recap EVERYTHING on the off chance someone completely new is watching, but a bit of context would probably help a lot of people out. I literally couldn't even tell you who the bad guys are meant to be.


morthalsfavouriteson

It's definitely weird they did video packages for everything else up to this point