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David Bixenspan : Realizing a lot of people seem to think/convinced themselves that I reported that WWE 100% pitched the Domino's story to media or I explicitly said "ergo they must have." Which I didn't. But do I wish circumstances allowed for a less nebulous version of the story? Uh...yeah!

David Bixenspan : Realizing a lot of people seem to think/convinced themselves that I reported that WWE 100% pitched the Domino's story to media or I explicitly said "ergo they must have." Which I didn't. But do I wish circumstances allowed for a less nebulous version of the story? Uh...yeah!

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BigHoss94

This whole thing has turned into an overblown and over hyped mess that'll be forgotten by Wednesday


TheRyanRAW

Cometh the inevitable Dominos ad.


Unlucky_Commercial83

At this point, there’s going to be 35-40 new posts related to which pizza chain advertised on Wednesday night So I’ve got an industrial sized popcorn bucket and 3 movie theater sized bags of kernels for popping scheduled for delivery on Tuesday


AKittyCat

Cant wait for the week long "Pizza commercial mega thread" /u/strike_gently is going to be forced to make.


Strike_Gently

Please. I’ve already removed so many.


AKittyCat

And its not even next week yet!


NoahGairn

Can't wait for the Pizza tribes. LocalPizzaStoreRunByTheNiceAsianLady gang where you at?


AKittyCat

Panucci Pizza in New York gang rise up. "FRY, PIZZA GOIN OUT. CMAWWWWWNNNN"


NoahGairn

GTFO motherfucker. This is 2 for 1 Pizza territory.


NoahGairn

I bought this popcorn off Amazon and my God does high quality popcorn taste different


RaidenHero137

They are gonna start a war over here on deep dish vs nyc style.


YourMasturbatingHand

and multiple PBR ads


BrettEskin

Dominoes I’m sure has a larger overall deal with Turner sports and they aren’t going to terminate over one incident. I’m sure they’re pissed about it and it’ll get in somebodies ear to not let it happen again which will likely be the end of it.


HendrickRocks2488

I would say it’s already dead and forgotten based on the current news that just came out lmao


Badwolf84

Except you can bet it'll be referenced on BTE; maybe even MJF eating pizza while watching Jericho/Juve.


Al_Bundy_14

Bryan Danielson can do things like that.


insertbrackets

The IWC is not a place for nuance, sir.


insomniainc

I don't care for the conspiracy crap just a basic level of skeptism before everyone began screaming their narratives would have been nice.


LadeeLex

Wrestling news world is moving too fast. Reporters with no form of history, or blatantly biased, are making it to the front page within an hour because they came up with a narrative that people in this sub want to believe. Too many here have really given into the tribalism on both sides and you can see this place is getting visibly worse. In my opinion, the mods need to really figure out some fixes to this such as having tagged content, having a tier list for reporter information, and they also need to not be participating in the tribalism themselves as I see one mod doing consistently. Half of the posts on the front page right now are over controversy and filled with comments shitting on people and arguments.


killermime88

Simple answer: Say what you mean.


A_Golden_Monkey

Hold on, isnt he literally on the front page saying “mainstream media reporter claims WWE privately pitched them on writing an AEW/ Dominos pizza story”, And Bix himself posted “voices of wrestling outright says that wwe was feeding them the dominos story to report to cause issues for AEW” Like, pick a lane dude. Also, this is why this sub needs to use its “secondhand source” tag more.


DPSnacks

>isnt he literally on the front page saying “mainstream media reporter claims WWE privately pitched them on writing an AEW/ Dominos pizza story”, Yes; he reported that person's claim but didn't make the claim himself.


A_Golden_Monkey

So definitely a second hand source, and one that he literally raced to tell us about by posting it himself.


trimble197

Yeah I had noticed that when Bix himself was explaining to another commenter. But people didn’t even question him about it lol. Edit: It was just so strange to me that he posted the article on here and then kept responding to people.


LadeeLex

Because it's not what they wanted to believe. People are trying to create their own realities by embracing ignorance.


trimble197

Seriously. It went from a non-story that AEW fans were laughing at to an overblown “fuck you WWE/Vince” heat magnet.


DPSnacks

>So definitely a second hand source From the article he posted, that seems extremely clear, yes.


bruiserbrody45

Some people are just so dumb. They dont even know what they are complaining about.


DPSnacks

Someone yesterday, who already posted in this thread, told me "Dave Meltzer's recap shouldn't have been downvoted because it's not a repost, it's more substantive than just a tweet" not knowing that the tweet on the front page *contained the article that started the whole discussion*. He was 10+ comments deep and didn't know that an article *existed*.


PwnnosaurusRex

He sure did spend a lot of time in this subreddit defending its legitimacy yesterday.


tjthegr8

This whole thing is a giant nothing burger that people who want to push narratives are clinging onto. AEW's not losing any sponsor money and the people at Domino's have probably already forgotten about the whole thing.


ILikeYourPoetry

And it’s literally just a platform to pin conspiracy theories onto WWE.


Jester252

The whole thing more then likely nothing more the Domino asking if they wouldn't mind not doing that in future.


yakityyakblahtemp

There's no actual evidence of Dominos taking any action at all. The original article didn't contact anyone at Dominos high up enough to really comment on it.


ATadVillainy

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions.


mirrormori

The longer this goes on the more it feels like certain people were anticipating Dominos pulling the sponsorship and blaming Vince for it and are now being forced to backpedal. Of all the ways Vince has sabotaged his competition in the past, getting a food sponsor pulled doesn't seem like his style. Vince would probably stop stores stocking AEW merch before this.


19Highlander94

Bixenspan is no more reliable than you or I. He’s just a smark who somehow has a following and tries to stir things up now and again,


vegetablecommunist

As far as I've learned, he's terrible on Twitter and has no scoops. He writes the best articles for a wrestling journalist and is very thorough. So it seems that he needs an editor to reel him in because without it, he's a shit stirrer.


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DPSnacks

Can't speak for anyone else but I'm not very reliable. Can you point me to some misinformation he reported please? That answered my question pretty succinctly actually


CableGuy2099

He does pretty good and thorough research though.


VeryPacificQuestion

Everything this guy writes reads like some whiny little shit complaining. Nobody more annoying in the “wrestling game”.


thedcexperience1986

hes a shit stirrer on twitter, trying to dig up old shit on his twitter and trying to get them int trouble, theres a few of them like that iandiceclay guy on twitter


M086

Can we please have a ban of Buxenspan tweets? Dude is a preening little shit.


BreadMiserable

Lol, he's just trying to make excuses for throwing a baseless theory out there that got traction.


DPSnacks

Looks like he's... correcting people who thought it was more than a theory, since he was clear that it was a theory


kingajeezy

He said he had evidence it was not more than a theory though.


DPSnacks

>He said he had evidence He did say that he had some evidence! He did not report that WWE 100% pitched the Domino's story and he didn't say "ergo they must have." That's what this tweet says, anyway.


kingajeezy

He said he has evidence WWE pitched a writer on the Dominos story. How is that not stating they pitched the story?


DPSnacks

>How is that not stating they pitched the story? What's the difference between these two sentences? 1. "[Somebody told me that you had a boyfriend who looked like your girlfriend.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fBdpreJiU)" 2. "I can now confirm that you had a boyfriend who looked like your girlfriend."


kingajeezy

Except he’s saying he has a picture of someone’s boyfriend who looks like a girlfriend.


DPSnacks

In today's day and age, he probably needs someone who can verify legitimacy - you know, someone who can tell from some of the pixels - or a second corroborating source before he says the second one.


kingajeezy

If the point is that he’s having any sort of doubt about the legitimacy of the evidence he claims, he should not have run the story. Don’t go on about how you’re an unbiased journalist, while single sourcing from a screenshot of a message. Do I think WWE could do this? Yeah, I’m in PR and this stuff absolutely happens. But for someone with as much disdain as Bix has for WWE, he better be able to back-up his source and his evidence.


DPSnacks

>If the point is that he’s having any sort of doubt about the legitimacy of the evidence he claims, he should not have run the story. I agree 450% with this statement and I don't know why people (not you) are intentionally or unintentionally misrepresenting the article instead of criticizing it on this extremely-legitimate basis


Kaprak

He was saying this last night *as* it was posted here. It's not some sudden change.


EezoManiac

It wasn't baseless. It was thin and crispy


ghostbuster55

Why does anyone listen to anything this basement dweller has to say?


thedcexperience1986

He gets the "WWE are evil" group all excited...


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xXDaNXx

2k upvotes and 600 comments on both threads on the initial report by this guy. I wonder if this retraction gets the same attention here.


davidbix

...that's not a retraction. It's a "wait, did a bunch of people just misread the article and see something that wasn't there?"


xXDaNXx

1,200 people did on this sub at least.


Feeling-Importance82

Really Bix ? After having [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/ov0liv/mainstream_reporter_privately_claims_wwe_pitched/h76j8lh?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) conversation where you keep saying that "I have no track record of making shit up", you are just going to backtrack like that ? >I reported that WWE 100% pitched the Domino's story to media or I explicitly said "ergo they must have." Which I didn't. He literally wrote in his article , >According to a screenshot shared with Babyface v. Heel, **a reporter from a mainstream publication, in reaching out about the story, explicitly said that WWE had contacted them about writing a article on the Domino’s/AEW situation.** Source :- https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/mainstream-reporter-privately-claims


DPSnacks

Let's compare/contrast: 1. "a reporter told me that XYZ occurred" 2. "I have confirmed and am now reporting that XYZ occurred" Come on, folks.


Feeling-Importance82

>Mainstream reporter privately claims WWE pitched them on writing an AEW/Domino's Pizza story > >The Ultimate Reconciliation: An Inside Look at the Vince McMahon-Ultimate Warrior Relationship > >Matt Riddle cancelled restraining order petition against rape accuser 36 hours before court date > >Even the press release for the Vince McMahon steroid trial miniseries is hagiographic bullshit Some of Bix's articles. Do we really need to pretend that we don't know which way his wind sail ? He is not reporting is in an unbiased manner. He brings up instances where WWE has done similar things. He mentions other sources which have made same claims(VOW, Meltzer) interestingly without any evidence. He claims he has an evidence but fails to present it when asked, rather goes on to say how reputed a journalist he is all the while sidetracking the question he is faced with. Is it really that hard to understand what he was trying to do ? He got his clicks, he is defusing the situation now. I haven't read any of his other journalistic pieces but I am ready to believe that he has been the best journalist alive until now. But this incident does not make me think highly of his journalistic integrity at all.


DPSnacks

>Do we really need to pretend that we don't know which way his wind sail ? Are those articles factually wrong...? >I haven't read any of his other journalistic pieces Oh, the topic alone bothers you >He brings up instances where WWE has done similar things. Journalists do this most times they discuss a person's actions... when someone gets nominated for an Emmy, it lists their previous Emmys at the bottom of the article. Context is important.


Feeling-Importance82

>Are those articles factually wrong...? Let me take a guess and say no. >Ah. If you write hundreds of great articles, it doesn't give you the free pass to write a speculative article and try to pass it off as a piece of evidence . >Journalists do this most times they discuss a person's actions... when someone gets nominated for an Emmy, it lists their previous Emmys at the bottom of the article. Context is important. You are just cherry picking sentences from my reply now. Would you give an example where those "journalists" accuse people/corporations of something on the basis of some evidence only they are in possession of and don't even reveal it to the public before backtracking on their claim ?


DPSnacks

>it doesn't give you the free pass to write a speculative article and try to pass it off as a piece of evidence . We are here discussing the author's tweet, where he says "I never said it was confirmed, my article was always speculative."


Feeling-Importance82

>I never said it was evidence, my article was always speculative. In case you did not read his article, he clearly says that he has an evidence which he is basing his entire article on, >There does appear to be something to this: According to a screenshot shared with Babyface v. Heel, a reporter from a mainstream publication, in reaching out about the story, explicitly said that WWE had contacted them about writing a article on the Domino’s/AEW situation. He is being hypocritical when he says I have this exclusive evidence incriminating WWE and then backtracks by saying "I never said it was damning evidence".


rurounijosie

This sub is just one giant tabloid now.


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sergeial

"caping" ffs


Zepsune

Sounds like he's trying to protect himself legally. Even if what he said in the article is true, he doesn't want to get into legal trouble with WWE.


Fuel_Cool

To paraphrase Cornette: "was anybody even talking to you?"


Ripclawe

That was said by him and voices of wrestling. Why the backtrack overnight?


DPSnacks

>Why the backtrack overnight? The only reason people think this is a backtrack is because they didn't read or understand what he said the first time. Which is why the follow-up is necessary.


gorglyjork

People are saying, "Bix is reporting WWE did this" when Bix is reporting "a reporter is telling people this, and WWE has a history of similar actions", and now you're going to see this thread fill up with people saying Bix is a dangerous hack and that this is a nonstory by WWE haters


Kaprak

He said the same thing last night. This isn't a backtrack.


icecreamboi111

Who gives a shit? Why is this news?


Cold_Studio_615

It’s not, people just want to crap all over WWE. Like that hasn’t been done for decades. wwe is just like every other media company, maximizing profits and keeping investors happy. WWE is a garbage company with garbage practices, no one denies that. But heavens say anything bad about perfect Tony and AEW and you’re in for more downvotes than ever. This is what happens when an internet darling makes it to the big time, their fans are already well adapted to upvoting, downvoting, retweeting and liking every single piece of “news” that goes against their precious love. Just go look at every single post about punk in the past week or two, repetitive drivel because one person got thousands of upvotes and they want the upvotes and attention too. What better way than “punk best in world, AEW best in world, screw WWE.” They crave approval from strangers about things that will never impact their life outside of a website/app. WWE has its fair share of garbage fans, maybe more toxic in ways but this is just sad.


DPSnacks

>heavens say anything bad about perfect Tony and AEW and you’re in for more downvotes than ever. How did we get from "advertiser blowback and associated controversy" to "people don't like when I post about Tony Khan on the internet," take me on the journey


Cold_Studio_615

The vast majority of outraged people are anti-WWE/pro-AEW. Check their histories, they’re the ones giving this garbage “journalism” steam.


DPSnacks

> they’re the ones giving this garbage “journalism” steam. The first person to give garbage journalism steam was the guy who claimed that Domino's is "threatening to pull ads from AEW telecasts on TNT" but gave us a quote from Domino's showing that he was wrong, and that Domino's is not threatening that. That guy was not pro-AEW. I'm also not really concerned with which TV show these people prefer.


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The whataboutism.


BurlyMayes

[backpedal.gif](https://i.imgur.com/VIadwtR.gif)


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Wwe being involved isnt hard to believe. Its a standard wwe tactic to hurt their competition.


Dellingham

Aew ain't competition no matter how much you wish


elc1992

This is the real PizzaGate /s EDIT: dang people don't like a reference to a real life shitty conspiracy as a joke. Fine.


space_peg6549

I'm so confused whats going on now. I'm just gonna say this is all JBL's fault thats normally who I blame for things